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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 7:46 am 
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Hi guys I came across this strange type kukri a while back and thot I'd post up and see what you guys have to say, it measures 12.5 inches ,weighs 820 Grams, has the no 59 on the blade ,has British marks co 1927 and c with broad arrow mark then 10 on the sheath under the flap that holds the kukri in place ,also has the no 12 on the back of the sheath on the belt loop, been trying to research about this ,I think Spiral has one ,would love to see some Picts or if any other members have one ,think Viking had one but sold it in 2007 I think ?? Read A bit in Ron Flooks book about it.
Would like to hear any views opinions on this odd piece,
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 7:47 am 
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More picts


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:10 pm 
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I think the mystery is why Ron called it a kukri..

It seems to be a British Indian army copy of a Burmese Chin Knife... In Thailand their often called e-nep...

There a very efficient heavy weight chopper........... Not really a true kukri though I think.... But they work very excellently!

There many threads and articles about them on this & other forums... A search for chin on this & other forums might turn up the many past discussions.

Touch wood on the search engine!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:20 pm 
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Spiral wrote:
I think the mystery is why Ron called it a kukri..


No real mystery, to most people it is a kukri shape, so easy to see how it may have been classified as such, think of the amount of Jambiya labelled as kukri by auctioneers!!

I have seen an image of these being carried during WW1 by Indian Army Service Corps personnel. Their history is certainly a mystery, the earliest manufactured example I have seen is 1915, with 1927 the latest. Anybody else seen any later or earlier?

An interesting example, Highlander, thanks for sharing it.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 7:54 am 
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Thanx for the replies Spiral ,and Chris do you have the pict of the Indian personnel carrying one ,would be cool to see
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:35 pm 
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A very nice piece there Highlander!
Gentlemen, great comments!

That particular style is a interesting point of the kukris development and design or what we shall call it.
It would pass my criteria for a Kukri and has been brought up a few times on the forum(s), always good with a reminder though!

a few older posts:

http://www.ikrhs.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=211

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/883565-Battle-Khukuri

http://www.ikrhs.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=7855

http://www.swordforum.com/forums/showthread.php?92946-Kukri-or-Kukri-Wannabe

http://www.ikrhs.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=485

a lot more out there though:-)

Its a great piece you have acquired and greatly adds to your already fantastic collection, congratulations!

It reminds me that this style then later in the next great war...WW2 developed into something more of the "paratrooper/special forces" without kaudi style and at times the grip marked handle and other variants. In that i specially mean the departure from the more traditional and military used styles of the MK1, MK2, MK3, Ang Khola, Sirupate and others.



Often it seems many of these somehow draw back to burma, with the Gurkhas in the Chin Hills among other places, similar knifes were being made there and part of the local ethnic weaponry. Similar weapons though can be found on the other side of the frontier too though, the North West Frontier...not only the North Eastern.
Yet the obvious resemblance to the Burmese hills is strong.

Thanks for the share mate!

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krishna


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:53 am 
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Interesting Krishna, I didn't realise such beasts also turned up in North west India.....

Thank you!

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:12 am 
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Spiral do you still have one of these ,would be cool to see some picts if you still have it .
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:43 am 
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No, sorry, in truth I only have 19 or 20 kukri left in my collection.... Chris & Krishna might have a few though? Not sure.....

There is certainly variation in feel amongst these beasts in hand though..... Very powerful cutters most of them though, if well balanced.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:40 am 
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Recently came across a photo, of Royal Indian Army Service Corps and/or Veterinary Corps Troops in France in 1940 armed with these Chin kukri knife machete things!

A few other pics of troops from those units and date included.

Look like muslim troops from north west India to me...

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:42 am 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:14 am 
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Wow brilliant picts Spiral and showing some of the troops who used them
Thanx for sharing
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