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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:30 am 
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Hi guys have an odd one here ,thinking Ww1 or before ?has a rehilted olive wood handle with nut attachment , 13.5 inch blade nice fullers and Kaudi ,760 Grams .
Scabbard has an odd shape ,nicely done stitching ,had what I think is the no 353 which have a line punched thro them Was this because of reissue ? Has then a no 252 the a single 3 ,then 6 RLI over 483 ,any thoughts on this and the stamping welcome ,
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:33 am 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:56 pm 
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Fascinating piece in many ways, blade reminds of Afghan army kukri? ....Nut as well... scabbard to....What are they like compared together?

Havent got a clue re marks, But yes lined through and reissued normally means reissued in Bayonets and swords at least.. Not normal marks for Afghan army either...

The chin style kukri knives often have multiple reissue numbers. Gurkha kukri dont, so I would presume non Gurkha regiment issue.

RPI ? if that is it, sounds like "something" light infantry... just as random guess. :oops:

Lots of differences and anomalies on this one..

Id just say unique until more comes to light in time...

Interesting piece...

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:43 am 
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Spiral here's some comparison picts with my Afghan , to my eye the spine fullers are identical ,same Kami that did it maybe ?.
Similar Kaudi shape and shape around it ,similar belly ,same style bolster but in steel .
Similar nut on the handle I think ,I think the original hilt would of been longer as well ?.
I know Olive wood is mostly found in the Middle East and the Mediterranean .
The steel seems of similar quality and feel if that makes sense ,
Anyway food for thought I think .
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:45 am 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:48 am 
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They do look very similar Highlander!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:51 pm 
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More fascinating... certainly same genre.... Might be same Armoury.....maker, I expect a dozen men made each example...

Id guess same era as well.

I can envisage several possibilities... But to help narrow them down, and rule out camera angle,can you overlay the small one on the large one,,, A small piece of timber or stack of coins or something to keep blades parallel to each other and a direct overhead shot.

Use the spine , particularly in kaudi area for the matching alignment.

If thats ok..? . Thank you.. :wink:

Is the line on the spine a crack like forging flaw ,or a deep scratch? Jewellers lens might help if its hard to be certain...

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:34 pm 
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Cool Spiral ill do that tom night when i get back from work .
Its just a scratch on the spine .
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:44 am 
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Here’s some picts of the blade directly over the top of the other one ,sorry if they are a bit blurred was tying to balance the blade and take a pict at the same time lol ,tried to get a pict of the spine profile as well ,hope this helps if you need more picts just say ?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:20 pm 
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Wow! Ok.. thank you... Ok... Ill just call it as I read it....

Ive seen more worn out relic and custom modified Royal Afghan arsenal blades than I have originals..

I think its clear your blade was once a full size Afghan army kukri.

If it was a shorter version from same arsenal, the fullers would not be the same, The kaudi area could be, but in truth I think your kukri was a badly damaged Afghan army blade and I would guess it was re worked and formed , probably in Afghanistan to make it Saleable to us troops, sometime in last 16 years.....

That would match the replacement hilt made from small diameter unseasoned olive branch. resulting in cracking from the pith... {Olives are widespread in Afghanistan.}

Were the blade was shortend and narrowed to save hours of flat grinding they put a steeper bevel on it to keep up the work.

So a fascinating rare and unique piece.......Perhaps not in the way one imagined though..

Thanks for sharing, its an interesting study piece...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:27 am 
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Fasinating stuff Spiral .thank you once again for reply and info , its definatly been around the block a few times lol , and good enough to be kept going .i really like the kuk and i think it pairs well with the full size one as a great comparison piece .
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