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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:19 pm 
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Because the Gurkhas are so intimately associated with the kukri, and most period illustrations are woodcuts or engravings rather than photographs, it is not easy to document the firearms used by the Gurkhas through contemporary visual images. Here are a few that I've found - I'd love to see more.
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2d Gurkas with Martini-Henry rifles, showing 2 riflemen in marching order, 3 signallers with heliograph mirrors and signal flags, a bugler and subadar in drill order. 1890s.
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2d Gurkha Rifles (the Sirmoor Battalion) at their depot in Dehra Dun, 1886. They are still armed with Snider short rifles, although by this time the Martini-Henry was the standard issue arm for British troops.
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Gurkhas and Highlanders, with kukris and Martini-Henrys, Second Anglo-Afghan War, 1880
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Third Nepal-Tibet War, 1855 - Royal Nepalese Army armed principally with kukris and shields, and a marksman with a bow. Long guns shown being used with fixed bayonets, possibly the Brunswick pattern rifles and muskets with sword bayonets.
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Looking for other examples - please post if you have any.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:24 am 
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Here are two more that I found in some old reference materials from John Powell:

Surrender of General Bhimsen Thapa's Gorkha forces (right) to the British at Sugauli, 1814.
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Display of weapons at the Palace kot (armoury), Kathmandu. c. 1860-64. Slant-breech Sharps, blunderbusses, matchlock toradors, flintlock volley gun, wheellock pistol, cannons large and small. The toys of royalty :mrgreen: .
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 Post subject: Re: Historical pics
PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:35 am 
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keep em coming Berk..I love these old pics..Rod


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 Post subject: Re: Historical pics
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hi guys
i must say these pics are worth a looksee


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:01 am 
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Thanks - glad you're enjoying them.
Here are a few more assorted pics of Gurkhas with Martini-Henrys.
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Personal weapons of Prithvi Narayan Shah, from Gorkha Darwar:
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with chupi bayonets
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:38 am 
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Berk...Thanks..In the very first pic you show in this post it looks as though one of the Gurkhas is wearing a Socket bayonet (perhaps Kukri) do you agree or am i seeing things that are not there in my old age ? Rod


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:47 am 
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Rod,
That is a regular Martini-Henry bayonet. I just cross-posted with you, while putting up a pic of two chupi bayonets.
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Berk, thank you now that I look more carefully I can see the straight Scabbard ! its a pity most military Kukri were worn on the back as we miss out on seeing them in many of these historical pics. Rod


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Great pics Berk, especialy like the Palace Armoury, I recognise on of the kora, its on Nepalse stamps & in thier National museam.

Just found this 4th GR picture in my files, dated c.1880.

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Thanks, Spiral - once again, they are armed with the Snider-Enfield short rifles. Interesting blade shape on the kukri, appears to be an upswept tip?

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Although crudely drawn, the weapons are apparently Enfields - whether Snider conversions or percussion is hard to tell. Good kukri view, for a change.
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Here are Sniders, I believe. Only a kukri hilt to be seen.
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3rd Goorkhas, 1900. Still armed with a Martini-Henry.
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Second Afghan War, 2nd Gurkha with Snider-Enfield
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Berkley wrote:
Thanks, Spiral - once again, they are armed with the Snider-Enfield short rifles. Interesting blade shape on the kukri, appears to be an upswept tip?


I think its probably a photographic illusian Berkley, emphasized by the Gurkhas thumb resting on the back of the spine, but some kukri are a little upswept, whether from design or hard work & the ensuing maintence of hammer sharpening!

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This photo is supposed to date from shortly after 1857. Probably shows an East India company musket.
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Departing slightly from the time period of the thread title, a photo of 3/6 Gurkha Rifles, Northwest Frontier, 1917 with SMLEs.
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